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I want to throw some Creambacks into the 2x12 cab for my BE-50/FX-8 rig. I generally get everything at Sweetwater. Is there a better place to buy them?

Related: Would you wire it for 4, 8 or 16 ohms (and why)? This particular cab will always be used by itself, so the impedance is not important from that standpoint (if I need four speakers, I'll use a 4x12 cab).

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one advantage of wiring in parallel is that if you blow a speaker, or lose a connection - you still have the other speaker providing a (higher) load for your amp.
If you lose a speaker with series wiring - you don't have any load on your amp - and can easily fry it quickly.


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clipless bumper wrote:
one advantage of wiring in parallel is that if you blow a speaker, or lose a connection - you still have the other speaker providing a (higher) load for your amp.
If you lose a speaker with series wiring - you don't have any load on your amp - and can easily fry it quickly.

It's unlikely to happen, but you never know. Makes sense...

So... Buy two 16 ohm speakers and wire in parallel for an 8 ohm load? Or, buy two 8 ohm speakers and wire in parallel for a 4 ohm load?

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I'd wire a 2x12 to 8ohms.

I've seen amps with a 4 and 8 ohms out and I've seen amps with a 8 and 16ohms out. And of course some amps have all 3.

But 8ohms is the most common.

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GuitarBilly wrote:
I'd wire a 2x12 to 8ohms.

I've seen amps with a 4 and 8 ohms out and I've seen amps with a 8 and 16ohms out. And of course some amps have all 3.

But 8ohms is the most common.

That's what I was thinking. The BE-50 has all three so I'm covered, regardless, but 8 ohms seems to make sense. I don't intend to stack another 2x12, but at 8 ohms, I could.

Next question: G12H or G12M - and why? See? This is why I stayed away from the speaker rabbit hole :lol:

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Anyone have any input whether the G12M or G12H Creamback is a better choice for the BE-50?

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I can't speak to the Friedman. But I do have a pair of 65watt Creambacks in my 2x12. For the most part I love them. The only caveat being that you have to basically kick the shit out of them. At lower volumes they can be a bit nasally in the top end. At bigger volume they open up and sound fucking killer.

I generally buy speakers from Sweetwater because 48 month financing.


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I checked around and Sweetwater's price is the same or lower than the others. Plus, they are just up the road from me, so everything I order is next-day delivery simply because it's close.

Now I'm looking for suggestions on G12M vs. G12H - and why...

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I don't know for sure, but, I think Celestion is pretty stiff about their pricing. They're the same pretty much everywhere I look.


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There wasn't much difference. Sweetwater was the same or a few dollars less at the places I checked. Plus, I've spent a ton with them, have a Sales Rep and they have always treated me right. No reason to go anywhere else.

Just need to figure out which speaker to get...

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Consensus is generally that the 75watt is more modern sounding than the 65 and has a bigger low end.


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TurboPablo wrote:
Consensus is generally that the 75watt is more modern sounding than the 65 and has a bigger low end.

Hmmmm... The G12H is also supposed to be noticeably louder (with all other things being equal) and fairly flat while the G12M compresses thickly and has a creamy midrange. At least according to some reviews on the web.

Sadly, none of that really helps me figure out which one. DAFUQ does "creamy midrange" really mean? :lol:

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In my experience, the Creamback 65's are a smoother Greenback that don't give it up as quickly or easily. But that's just me and my ears.


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TurboPablo wrote:
In my experience, the Creamback 65's are a smoother Greenback that don't give it up as quickly or easily. But that's just me and my ears.

Cool... Buying without hearing is a bit of a crapshoot. I feel like I want a little less warmth than I'm getting right now, but the cab currently has a V30 and CL80 paired together. I wonder how the tone will change going to Creambacks if all else remains the same...

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I don't know. In that case I'd probably go with the 75's. But, I don't find the 65's to be all that "warm". Just smooth.

This guy has some killer demos. Look him up.



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TurboPablo wrote:
I don't know. In that case I'd probably go with the 75's. But, I don't find the 65's to be all that "warm". Just smooth.

This guy has some killer demos. Look him up.


Thanks for the link :thu:

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I was looking at Creambacks based on Billy's recommendation but decided to go with Greenbacks. It will either be a good choice, or not :lol: I don't have any cabs with Greenbacks and wanted some in the stable. I ordered them yesterday afternoon and they should be here today. The aforementioned benefit of living close to Sweetwater... :thu:

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