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It's not breaking news. You can go from clean to mean on a single Channel amps with your guitar knob.

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What I didn't realize, because I'm a bedroom player, you shouldn't try and dial in a clean tone as your high point on the guitar volume if you're playing just clean. I was going to sit down and play clean for a bit and dialed in my 2204 pre and post for clean. Mistake. After I set the master to noon and pre to 2, rolled back the old guitar volume, all the goods came.

I used to be all about the channel switching amps but FUCK, man... It's easier to roll the volume back than tap dance a bit, isn't it? I got clean-crunch-high gain all right there. I was starting to think my 2204 tubes were going or something but it turns out I'm dumb, as usual.

Now, I have no actual volume control on my guitar but at least it sounds good and I have tone options :lol:

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i put the volume on my ampeg v50h at about 11 oclock with my bridge pickup which gives me a nice mid gain zeppelin type vibe, with a boost i can get enough gain for most metal and if i switch to my neck pickup i get a good clean tone.


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A few years ago I saw a rig rundown for Jon Hudson of Faith No More. He had a single Channel JCM800 and used 2 EQ pedals to give it 3 channels. One would clean it up and the other would boost it to hi-gain. It seemed like a really cool and easy approach to expanding a 1 channel amp's capabilities.

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It depends on the gain range you need, I think. Metal players that need ultra high gain and pristine cleans would have a hard time with a single channel amp. But of you don't use a ton of gain in your rhythm tones and don't mind a bit of break up in your cleans, than yeah a single channel amp is definitely easier. Set it up for your main crunch tone, roll back for cleans, boost for lead.

Also, Marshalls and old Fenders do this better than any other amps. They have the perfect clean to crunch transition.

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2 eq pedals is a good way to do it, too. I like the option of bring in more mids for the distortion and scooping them a tad for cleans.

I play a metal-esque tone but if I was really trying to cop like KSE tones or what have you I would use my helix and bring up a suitable metal amp profile. The 2204 bottom end is a liiiiiitle too loose for machine gun chugs, for me. Even boosted.


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Yeah, I set one channel and ride the volume knob, clean to scream!

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I like to use the neck pickup for cleans. Most of my guitars have 2 volume knobs. Once I dial in the neck volume I can toggle the gain levels instantly.

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The fryette/vhts clean up extremely well.


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How do you find the 2204 plays with the EVH cab(I assume with the stock speakers)?

I’m planning on that identical rig in the near future. 2204 is on its way, cab will follow.


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I have a 3 channel DSL but only really use OD1 on the Ultra channel. Footswitchable EQ in the loop, a few OD's out front, and the guitar volume knob. Gets me everywhere I need to be.


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I've always played through single channel amps. My Marshalls were a 2266VM and a '93 Plexi reissue. I ran the Plexi jumpered and the 2266VM behaves like a jumpered amp with it's split gain controls. That amp was all about riding your volume knob. I run my YBA-1 jumpered like my old Plexi in single channel fashion. Even my '47 Masco has one dark clean channel and on bright crunchy channel which are internally jumpered for single channel use. My 6505+ is my first actual channel switcher but I typically leave it in the green channel. The volume control on your guitar and a pedal is all you need for clean, crunch & lead.

I've been trying something different since last weekend. Clean pedal platform amp and this two channel beauty. It's definitely the best dirt pedal I've ever tried. I'm blown away by how damn good it sounds. The honeymoon is in full swing. :lol:

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It cleans up beautifully with my guitar's volume control too.


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I have a 3 channel DSL but only really use OD1 on the Ultra channel. Footswitchable EQ in the loop, a few OD's out front, and the guitar volume knob. Gets me everywhere I need to be.

yep, that's how I use my DSL too.

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guidedbyechoes wrote:
The fryette/vhts clean up extremely well.


True. The D60 was one of the most versatile amps I've had.

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I could get by with my 2204 no problem.


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MacaroniSalad wrote:
How do you find the 2204 plays with the EVH cab(I assume with the stock speakers)?

I’m planning on that identical rig in the near future. 2204 is on its way, cab will follow.

I took out the stock speakers and put in cream backs. Well, WGS ET65s. To be honest, I forgot why I got rid of the originals. I think it was to try t75s in it instead. So goes the gear wheel.


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Riffraff wrote:


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Are the two channels the same? Or what is the difference?


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They are the same but the the controls have a lot of range so you can set up each side differently. The gain controls go from totally clean to searing grind. It's amazingly amp like. More so than any pedal I've ever heard before. No grainy character at all. It has a ton of volume output too. I haven't tried it as a boost yet but it could easily be used to push a dirty amp over the top. I'm having a lot of fun with it.


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still my favorite clean to scream video




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GuitarBilly wrote:
guidedbyechoes wrote:
The fryette/vhts clean up extremely well.


True. The D60 was one of the most versatile amps I've had.



The CLs are very similar to the d60/d120s but a little smoother and you get a graphic eq as well


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Riffraff wrote:
I've been trying something different since last weekend. Clean pedal platform amp and this two channel beauty. It's definitely the best dirt pedal I've ever tried. I'm blown away by how damn good it sounds. The honeymoon is in full swing. :lol:

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It cleans up beautifully with my guitar's volume control too.


I love my Eclipse! Would love it even more in that finish. The stock red is fine too though.


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Riffraff wrote:
They are the same but the the controls have a lot of range so you can set up each side differently. The gain controls go from totally clean to searing grind. It's amazingly amp like. More so than any pedal I've ever heard before. No grainy character at all. It has a ton of volume output too. I haven't tried it as a boost yet but it could easily be used to push a dirty amp over the top. I'm having a lot of fun with it.


Interesting. I have to look some clips up!

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