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Wizard MTL Clone Build Thread - FINISHED 1/26!! 
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By popular demand :) (or is it just 'cause I wanna do it :idk: )... here is a build thread for the Wizard MTL clone I'm building... This is just a fun personal project for me that like the 12000 I build a couple of years ago. I decided to do this because there is a little lull in the Bottle Rocket Pedal Preamp design. Obviously, I won't be selling anything like this through Henning Amps...

I'll be using a PCB from Jason over at Headfirst Amplification in Australia:

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This will be much like the original from the control standpoint, however, I'm not doing any of the foot switching, the adjustable line out, the half power switch or a loop since I don't need any of that. All switching will be available using push/pull pots on the front panel like the original.

I've decided to build this in 100 watt form and ordered the following iron for the project:

PT: Custom ToneClone MP100-67 (520V B+) w/added 4A 5V tap for the relays
OT: ToneClone O100JM
Choke: ToneClone MAR100-C (3H)

Just got the chassis in. I'm going to use the Valvestorm Project Chassis because it has a million holes to do just about anything:

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I decided to do custom faceplates/backplates, so I did this mockup in Photoshop for the guys at ValveStorm to do the design and have the plexi panels made. They will be black with white lettering:

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That's all for now. Collecting parts, since I have a ton of stuff already. Probably will be a few weeks before I actually get started building since I have to wait for the transformers and other parts...

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I ordered one of these last night!!

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Excited to see the progress of this thread. Are you not going to do a loop? I know the original doesn't have one but I'd think it'd be easy to add a metro loop?

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I ordered one of these last night!!

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Excited to see the progress of this thread. Are you not going to do a loop? I know the original doesn't have one but I'd think it'd be easy to add a metro loop?

No plans for a loop - I just don't need them in my setup, however, I have a metro loop sitting around and the holes are already cut in the chassis, so if I wanted to add one later it would be easy.

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Just finished enlarging the holes in the project chassis to accommodate my layout. I had to enlarge the third and fourth holes on the front of the chassis for the Standby switch and the large Fender style jewel lamp. Also enlarged the vertical holes on the right side of the front of the chassis for the HI and LO inputs. On the back I had to enlarge one hole and drill a small hole just under it for the impedance selector. I used a stepped bit for enlarging the holes and a regular drill bit for the small hole I cut. Here are the stepped bits. You can get them from Amazon:

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I did break one bit trying to drill that small hole - damn these steel chassis are tough!

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I ordered a deburring tool from Amazon that should be here in a few minutes that I'll use to deburr the holes. Here is what it looks like:

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I'll post that up when I do the deburring, 'cause ya just gotta deburr your holes. :lol:

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Definitely a cool project and PCB. Seemingly not one to sit on his hands for too long, he's now working on a vh4 board!

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Man this is gonna be epic.

Glad you've planned to properly deburr as well :lol:

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One thing that always amazes me is the type of specialty tools that have been designed to make certain things just a bit easier. Ingenuity at work right there. Looks great so far.

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Glad you've planned to properly deburr as well :lol:

:thu: ;)

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I haven't built an amp in years, this has me interested in doing another one.


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Gargoyle7 wrote:
One thing that always amazes me is the type of specialty tools that have been designed to make certain things just a bit easier. Ingenuity at work right there. Looks great so far.

Yeah, the thing actually worked really well, too!

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I haven't built an amp in years, this has me interested in doing another one.

Do it, man!

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Always properly deburr your holes... :lol: Tool actually worked great - everything is nice and smooth now!


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Bro, do you even de-burr? :rofl:

Sweet thread, Steve. Thanks for posting the progress. You planning to sell this when you're done building or keep it with all the Bottle Rockets and Cherry Bombs I imagine your music room stuffed with? :lol:

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Awesome Steve!!! I can't wait to see how this project turns out!

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Bro, do you even de-burr? :rofl:

Sweet thread, Steve. Thanks for posting the progress. You planning to sell this when you're done building or keep it with all the Bottle Rockets and Cherry Bombs I imagine your music room stuffed with? :lol:

I’m keeping this one. It’s like the Plexi I built - just a personal project. You’re right though - lotsa Henning Amps in the studio!

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Awesome Steve!!! I can't wait to see how this project turns out!

Yeah should be a fun one!

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Well, today, I cut all the remaining holes I need in the top of the chassis. I bought the project chassis from Valvestorm because it already has TONS of holes cut in it, however:

1.) None of the transformer or choke hole patterns worked with the ones I chose for this
2.) None of the holes for the board were in the right place (which I expected)
3.) I needed to drill some additional holes for grounding lugs

Man... widening some of the holes on the front and back of the chassis was a piece of cake, but geez, cutting holes from scratch in the top of this chassis (18g steel) was a royal pain in the ass. Even widening some of the transformer holes was hellish.... The holes didn't come out clean either and I had to use a Dremel tool with grinder attachment to take all the excess steel off the back of the holes.I swear the top of the chassis seemed thicker than the sides for some reason?? Aluminum chassis from now on!

F#ck me, I'm tired now...

Anyway... :lol: After a whole lot of work, all the holes were cut.

Transformers, choke and tube sockets in:

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And... test fitting the board:

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Oh, and here are the custom plates I had made:

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Next, installing the grounding lugs and the front and back pots and other stuff...

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Looking good. I swear the thing that stops me making more amps is all the goddamn drilling :lol:

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Looking good. I swear the thing that stops me making more amps is all the goddamn drilling :lol:

I know, right?

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Looks cool. I’d love a single channel MTL actually.

The other difference from a real MTL is the rhythm channel has a bright knob in the back vs. the pull on the clone. I find the MTL sounds best with the brights set around 3:00, so I’d make that pull be aggressive.

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This looks amazing Steve. This is my favorite kind of thread. I have no building skills so I just live vicariously through you guys :lol;

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The other difference from a real MTL is the rhythm channel has a bright knob in the back vs. the pull on the clone. I find the MTL sounds best with the brights set around 3:00, so I’d make that pull be aggressive.

The MTL that was blueprinted and the clone boards were made from does not have a bright knob on the back. I think the newer ones do...

Here are pictures of the MTL that was cloned:

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