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All right GGF! It's that time again!

These are the rules:


Please post pictures of your rig ready to go, wired up, passing signal. Passing signal should be a clear link between instrument and amps for the amp categories (if your boards are in those rigs then signal should pass through those). For the pedal boards we are asking that we can see pedals on (not necessarily all) and cables going into and out of the board. If you have a wireless unit please ensure we can see something plugged into a guitar and the wireless receiver on. If your amp has a standby it can be in the standby position as volume may be an issue depending on where and when you’re taking said pics. As long as I see that the amp is on, we’re good (plus flipping off standby isn’t really a hard thing to do at a gig).

This is not a "gear collection" contest. It's all about the RIG.
Maximum of 2 guitars in the rig picture. For the same reason as above.
Pictures used on previous BOTRs will not be allowed. Please take a new picture for this contest. If you would like to do Rig Rundown videos for your categories those are also encouraged and accepted. Have some fun with this.
You can enter multiple categories if you have different rigs. But only one entry per category is allowed. For example if you have a combo and a 1/2 stack you can enter both categories. If you have 2 half-stacks, pick your best one and enter once in that category. The one exception to this the stereo/WDW/multi amp category.

Best Vintage Rig rules are the same as last year. To qualify, only the head or combo must be from the 1980s or earlier. If you have a vintage guitar to go along with said amp and cab for authenticity, even better.

Budget Rig category will be sub $1K fair market value.


The post threads will be open Tuesday May 30th until Friday July 7th 3PM EDT. After that point Billy or I will lock the post threads and create voting polls.
Voting starts on the 8th and goes until July 15th. 7 days should be enough for voting.
The winners of each category will then compete for "Best Overall Rig of 2023" From July 16th to July 23rd.

I reserve the right to amend these dates as necessary.

Individual prize winners will be put into a drawing to win one of two bundles of strings.

Grand Prize pool consists of a Caroline Crom pedal, a Focusrite 2i2 Gen 1, a MXR Timmy,a Kaisertronics DAMN treble booster and a MCP Blackbelt rewired by me (replaced the lead as it was cut short/spliced) so far. As prizes are donated, we will add more of them if we get them.

Contest is open to all GGF members with 10 posts or more.
Creating alts for voting purposes will automatically disqualify you, not to mention you will also get some days off. :lol:
Inviting new members to join and vote is not only allowed, it is encouraged! Help spread the word about GGF!

Finally, please keep the post threads for gear pictures only and take all the discussion to this thread. That will keep things easier.

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Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


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I’m going to kill the vintage category this year. Get ready to suck me, everyone else

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I have a combo rig that I may enter, finally :hmm:


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Dave wrote:
I’m going to kill the vintage category this year. Get ready to suck me, everyone else



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I need a poverty amp so I could do something in the budget rig with my Epi lol


*searches Facebook for amps* :bay:


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I'll donate a Caroline Crom fuzz pedal...only used twice!!! :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:



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Is the budget rig $1k all in or just for the amp?

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Is the budget rig $1k all in or just for the amp?



All in


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Oh.

Welp I won’t be entering that one

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I'm guessing fair market value would not allow for my SG special that I paid $400 + an old korg workstation I got from the Arc for $45? :lol:

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spawnofthesith wrote:
I'm guessing fair market value would not allow for my SG special that I paid $400 + an old korg workstation I got from the Arc for $45? :lol:


Yeah unfortunately no :lol:

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GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
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I think I actually have a rig to enter for the budget rig (since it’s based around market value and not what we paid).

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Updated prize pool with the Crom and a MCP Blackbelt (I repaired the wiring on it and it has a proper reading/resistance).

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"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."


GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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May be a dumb question - is there a list of the categories that I'm somehow missing?

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I just haven’t posted them yet. They’ll start on Tuesday. Same categories as last year in the sub-sub forum.

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GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Correction: topics are posted but will remain locked until Tuesday.

I was sitting outside just now watching my son play and decided it was a good time to write up the threads.

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"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."


GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Has anyone ever smashed the small pedalboard category with 2 effects?




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Threads are open for business! You’ve got almost a month to get your entries in.

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"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."


GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Dave wrote:
I’m going to kill the vintage category this year. Get ready to suck me, everyone else



This is making me debate whether to enter my DR into vintage or combo :lol:

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spawnofthesith wrote:
Dave wrote:
I’m going to kill the vintage category this year. Get ready to suck me, everyone else



This is making me debate whether to enter my DR into vintage or combo :lol:


:lol: I have the same dilemma with my Vibrolux.

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GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Marc G kicking off the Head and Cab thread in style!

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"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."


GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Yarbicus showing strong in the budget category and having a consistent theme too!

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"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."


GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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Bubbastain dropping some science!


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Yeaahh my lame little DR can go in combo not vintage :lol:

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Welp, Dave won vintage. Unless Itchy shows up with something that can top that.

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GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.


NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.


Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix


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I have a sick combo coming up too.

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