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I'm not a young kid. I'm a 46 year old, not depressed man who listens to extreme metal and 70's prog. I adore 95% of her shit and i think she is extremely talented

people just like different things


True that. Its cool. She seems like a nice person, I have no problem with her. Maybe I'll come to like her stuff eventually.

Aside from that, I haven't found a good video of Aerosmith's performance last night. Was it as bad as people are saying? I saw a couple of very short clips and it sounded like Aerosmith always sounds live to me. I hear people using words like "disaster" and "total fail". Was it really that bad?


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I like her music quite a bit. Well "their" music since her brother is a big part of it. I agree Bad Guy is not the best representation of the album.
As far as home recordings, this could be the exception or it could be the start of a new trend, time will tell. But without a doubt home studios are getting better, especially if your music doesn't require mic'ing real drums or guitars etc... if it's mostly electronic and the only thing going through a mic are vocals, then yeah you can get pro quality at home for sure. Something like Reason or FL or even a hardware synth will give you pro quality sounds easily.
Rock bands have it harder since they have to actually mic everything up etc... or course you can go with modeling and something like Superior Drummer played by an e-kit but IMHO, that's not all the way there yet. You can get good results that way but it will be different than a major production. But for electronic/sampled music, it's all there.

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I like her music quite a bit. Well "their" music since her brother is a big part of it. I agree Bad Guy is not the best representation of the album.
As far as home recordings, this could be the exception or it could be the start of a new trend, time will tell. But without a doubt home studios are getting better, especially if your music doesn't require mic'ing real drums or guitars etc... if it's mostly electronic and the only thing going through a mic are vocals, then yeah you can get pro quality at home for sure. Something like Reason or FL or even a hardware synth will give you pro quality sounds easily.
Rock bands have it harder since they have to actually mic everything up etc... or course you can go with modeling and something like Superior Drummer played by an e-kit but IMHO, that's not all the way there yet. You can get good results that way but it will be different than a major production. But for electronic/sampled music, it's all there.


It doesn't hurt that the two were encouraged to write music their entire lives. Finneas probably worked his ass off to get good at his passion. His whole "10,000 hours" mantra. Home schooled. never pushed, but allowed to do their thing. In fact, the house rule was if they were writing or recording (this was before they became famous in any way), they didn't have to go to bed at any time. The parents slept in their living room, so the two could have their own spaces to do their thing. They still live in that house and the parents still sleep in the living room. Finneas moved out a bit ago, but they kept his room as as their recording studio. Billie still lives in that house.

You can see what the setup is in this video


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Aside from that, I haven't found a good video of Aerosmith's performance last night. Was it as bad as people are saying? I saw a couple of very short clips and it sounded like Aerosmith always sounds live to me. I hear people using words like "disaster" and "total fail". Was it really that bad?


When Aerosmith started the song, it was pretty cringe worthy. They looked older that dirt. Once they got rolling with Run DMC, I thought it was ok.


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The parents should get an award too , that is how it's done folks . They won big and deserve it . Congrats kids !

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I listen to a few college radio stations and a commercial station that plays indie music.
95% of the music sounds like it was recorded at home - shitty vocals, shitty vocal melodies, simple arrangements and boring music.
The other 5% is actually pretty decent.
Record companies no longer have to spend millions on concept albums - these days, they simply comb through the thousands of recordings sent to them by home producers and reap the profits.
Eventually, they strike gold.

I like Billy Eilish but, 7 Grammys??? Nah.
Hopefully, she will take a lesson from Amy Weinhouse.
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I hate to say it, but I had never heard of her before this thread. I had a really hard time getting through this song, but I don't exactly think I'm her target audience. Kudos to those kids who are doing this at home and doing it well enough to make a living. I haven't followed the grammys for decades, but hearing one newcomer winning 7 doesn't surprise me at all.

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i mean, we all kinda fuck around with 4 tracks or computers or whatever until we make records. those folks made use of logic and a pair of solid mics and did something that appeals to a new generation. i can't fault 'em. i'm not a big fan of their tools... but it's no different than me being a 16 year old kid in 1987 and fucking with cheapass guitars and a tascam. they just did it better and got popular.

her music's not my bag, but my wife likes it and it's not really bad at all- and they really don't interview like they're douchey industry types OR people who're 'assaulting the ivory tower of the record industry'... more like, they're just doing it and enjoying the ride and still kicking it's ass. love it.


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I hate to say it, but I had never heard of her before this thread. I had a really hard time getting through this song, but I don't exactly think I'm her target audience. Kudos to those kids who are doing this at home and doing it well enough to make a living. I haven't followed the grammys for decades, but hearing one newcomer winning 7 doesn't surprise me at all.


I'll keep saying it. this song is not indicative of her style at all. She is actually quite melodic and chill. Not a belter for sure. She has a very relaxed form of singing, but man, she can do it well.

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She's 18, right? So, is it OK to say that I heard she looks great in a bikini?

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She's 18, right? So, is it OK to say that I heard she looks great in a bikini?


She did say the thing she is most proud of is her boobs. :idk:

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atrox wrote:
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She's 18, right? So, is it OK to say that I heard she looks great in a bikini?


She did say the thing she is most proud of is her boobs. :idk:


Doesn't dress like it......


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atrox wrote:
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She's 18, right? So, is it OK to say that I heard she looks great in a bikini?


She did say the thing she is most proud of is her boobs. :idk:


Doesn't dress like it......


Personally, she ain't nothing to lust over. i just like her tunes.

But... Just takes a quick look at instagram and she has a couple pics from hawaii on there

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She's no Greta Thunberg......

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She's no Greta Thunberg......

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:lol:

Actually, with makeup and a tight outfit, I bet Ms. Eilish would raise more than eyebrows.
I give her props for not flaunting it... it puts the focus on the music, rather than the boobs.

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She is a pretty girl . Every body is getting behind here , could be the next Madonna i.e. long career .

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She is a pretty girl . Every body is getting behind her..........


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She is a pretty girl . Every body is getting behind here , could be the next Madonna i.e. long career .


She is. It's just that she is 18 and i am not. :D

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TOOL should have swept the whole thing.

They have the best produced album ever made and even though I'm a fanboy I don't make that statement lightly.

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funny - I don't recall them even being nominated.........



n/m - pre-show, they won for Best Metal Performance :freak:


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Aside from that, I haven't found a good video of Aerosmith's performance last night. Was it as bad as people are saying? I saw a couple of very short clips and it sounded like Aerosmith always sounds live to me. I hear people using words like "disaster" and "total fail". Was it really that bad?



It was pretty fucking bad, especially when Run DMC came out. They were stomping all over each others vocal parts and it pretty much sounded like a trainwreck

I assume this is from the Grammys anyway....came across it in a Facebook discussion yesterday:

Edit: nevermind, now it says the video is not available in my country :lol:

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I listened to the album yesterday. It’s pretty good, I wouldn’t say sweep the Grammys kind of amazing but it’s cool.


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I listened to the album yesterday. It’s pretty good, I wouldn’t say sweep the Grammys kind of amazing but it’s cool.


Felt that way too the first few listens. Then i checked out her old shit and singles and came back to it and it hit me hard. For me... it's all good. The old shit hits differently as she was 13-15 when she was doing that shit, but it's still great stuff.

I can't nail down exactly what it is i like about her shit. I think the lyrics are generally amazing and witty. I love the production. Her style of singing amazes me, while it bores some people. I've always been a sucker for a good female singer though.

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I wish she was as hot as her voice....... :cry:

Can somebody please explain to me how she walked around the room?

Projectors changing the orientation of the room 90 degrees every few minutes?

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I wish she was as hot as her voice....... :cry:

Can somebody please explain to me how she walked around the room?

Projectors changing the orientation of the room 90 degrees every few minutes?




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Kind of blows up the rest of the awards and makes me assume it’s all a popularity contest.


That is why I stopped paying attention to the Grammy's decades ago. It's not about substance at all, and that become more and more obvious with each passing year.

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